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Summit Communications:
In late June, the conference on Disarmament,
Demobilization, Reintegration and Stability
in Africa was held here in Sierra Leone,
a clear sign of the international community's
confidence in your return to peace and stability.
Many nations around the world are attempting
to reconcile recent tragedies with modernisation
and stability. Sierra Leone has been particularly
successful and is held up by some people
as a model for emulation in terms of the
DDR process. Vice President, we are keen
to understand why you feel that the peace
has taken root here, while in many other
countries, it has failed.
Vice-President Solomon Berewa: Well, my
simple answer to that is that the leadership
in Sierra Leone - the political leadership
was highly committed to the achievement
of peace and because of that commitment,
it was prepared to go to any length to achieve
peace; even including making concessions
within reasonable terms to the rebels, to
the recalcitrant members of the forces and
also it succeeded because we put the issue
of national reconciliation at the centre
of it all. We did not embark on a vendetta
against those who had taken up arms against
the people and the country. We were determined
to bring them all into the fold and live
together with them as Sierra Leoneans. They
saw the good intention of the government;
they saw the commitment of the government;
they saw that the government's policies
leading up to the signing of the peace and
even there after, was not discriminating
against those who were against the government
or who had taken up arms against the government.
So we tried to build confidence that way;
and I think that's the cornerstone of whatever
success that we've achieved. If for instance
we had tried to be high handed and not conciliatory;
not allowed the participation of those who
had taken up arms, it would have been a
little more difficult and if they were not
sure that we were committed to achieving
peace and building the nation and getting
everybody within it and everybody participating
in it, I don't think we would have made
much head way.
Summit Communications:
There are also some innovative measures
that have been taken within Sierra Leone
such as the Special Court and the Truth
and Reconciliation Commission.
Vice-President Solomon Berewa: This is
all part of it. We founded the Truth and
Reconciliation Commission; we provided for
and reintegrated combatants into civil society
and civil functions, like the Military and
the Police. These are the details of the
government policies, which were geared towards
reconciliation and the reunification of
the country.
Summit Communications:
As mentioned; the U.N. peacekeepers are
set to be phased out completely by the beginning
of next year. Vice President, are you confident
that Sierra Leone can take care of it's
own security once the international troops
leave?
Vice-President Solomon Berewa: We have
no doubt for the moment, and I hope that
our confidence is well placed. There are
strong reasons to think so. The internal
security of this country in all the regions
has for sometime now been handed over to
our own security forces. The maintenance
of security at our borders has also for
sometime, been handed over to our military
forces and, so far, they have acquitted
themselves well. Both the military and the
police are displaying real professionalism.
Their standards have improved considerably
thanks to IMATT. Their orientation too seems
to have improved and above all they are
better equipped with the tools of their
trade - communications equipment and vehicles
and so forth - than they have ever been
before. All this gives us good reasons to
hope that they will be in the position to
give us more sustained security than ever
before.
Summit Communications:
Another issue that we wanted to talk about
was agriculture. Two-thirds of the working
population are involved in agriculture and
the country has massive potential for export
going forward. More specifically, we wanted
to deal with the food security plan. We
know that in co-operation with the U.N.
Food and Agricultural Organisation (FAO)
and various NGOs, the government is really
working to achieve President Kabbah's pledge
that no Sierra Leonean will go to bed hungry
by 2007. Could you please share with the
readers of the New York Times, your ideas
and strategies to achieve that pledge?
Vice-President Solomon Berewa: Well of
course, as you've pointed out, the potential
for agriculture in this country is massive.
We have rich and abundant lands. We have
an extensive river system; we have rain
fall and dry season evenly divided throughout
the year. So the raw materials are there.
Because of the war, much agricultural infrastructure
and many crops, even the cash crops were
destroyed or left to lie fallow without
being attended. Even the tractors and machinery
that were used in agriculture were deliberately
destroyed. So when we came back after the
war, all those things no longer existed.
The government believes that of all its
economic activities, the one that we stand
to make the greatest success of is agriculture.
So President Kabbah made a pledge to do
everything we could by 2007 to ensure that
no Sierra Leonean goes to bed hungry. That's
what we are engaged in now. How are we going
to achieve that? Well, there are many countries,
which are helping considerably and also
international organisations; the FAO being
one. The Germans are doing a lot; the Chinese
too are doing a lot. We're hoping that other
countries including the Egyptians will come
in to help. Many people who are well disposed
to our plans in this sector, international
NGO's such as World Vision are helping.
The provision for agriculture in the national
budget is at its highest, this time and
farm inputs also generously provided for.
For the first time we have a large quantity
of tractors and farm machinery in the fields.
Of course, there is also a re-organisation
in the Ministry of Agriculture itself so
as to make it more effective and efficient.
So with all those things, we think the pledge
will be achieved. There are incentives for
farmers to return to the land, and increase
the size of their farms. We then assist
them so as to increase their yield. Stores
have been built so as to ensure that the
storage of grains so that they don't waste
away. All these things are geared towards
the attainment of food security by 2007.
So we are very hopeful.
Summit Communications:
And so you are confident that you will fulfil
the President's pledge?
Vice-President Solomon Berewa: Yes, I am
very hopeful. Of course, the weather is
the one variable in all the equations. Take
this year, for instance. There was no clear-cut
demarcation between the rainy season and
dry season and that obviously effects the
farming cycle. These are the types of things
that we have no control over. But barring
these variables, I'm very hopeful.
Summit Communications:
It is testament to the renewal of your country
that there are so many people now looking
to invest here, not just in agriculture
but also in mining. Vice President what
do you think that these investors who are
coming to Sierra Leone, say about the country
and also what are the main misconceptions
or challenges that you face when you're
trying to attract investment to Sierra Leone?
Vice-President Solomon Berewa: Well the
fact that the investors you've named and
many more who are coming have chosen to
invest here, says a lot about the present
state of affairs in Sierra Leone. The confidence
they have in Sierra Leone now; the fact
that security is being sustained and that
there is peace assures that we've the proper
environment for investment. We're increasingly
investor friendly as a nation; and are putting
all the laws and regulations in place to
reassure anyone looking to invest here.
We have that type of democratic and economic
system and the kind of open door policy
that attracts investors. Also, we are working
hard to provide electricity round the clock
to the western area of Sierra Leone including
Freetown. We are working hard to upgrade
the Hotel facilities so that investors have
somewhere to stay. We are working hard on
the roads. Much of our infrastructure was
destroyed by the war but the good thing
is that by the day we are working day in
and day out to put it right.
Summit Communications:
Foreign investors have made to us in interviews
that the change even in the last two years
let alone the last five years has been incredible.
Vice-President Solomon Berewa: That's it.
If you had seen the extent of the destruction
in this country in 1999 to 2000 you would
not believe how far we have come. We urge
them to come and see it all change with
us. There are also complaints about governance
and corruption. One cannot blame them for
that. The government that was in place for
years before our time was notoriously corrupt
and its record of governance was so bad
that Sierra Leone acquired some notoriety
for that particular reason. Now since 2000
when the war was about to end, we started
putting in place actively, mechanisms to
combat corruption. It was taboo but now
everybody talks about it freely. Before,
it was more or else sanctioned by the highest
level of government. Now we are trying to
root it out wherever we see it. We have
already exposed a lot of corruption matters
which ironically can count against us as
it suggests we are a very corrupt country.
However, before it was all always hush hush
and only now is it coming to the surface.
Our record in terms of governance was similarly
bad but now, I can assure you, but now we
are putting in place a number of mechanisms
to ensure that there is transparency and
accountability.
Summit Communications:
It's interesting that you mentioned the
governance, because just in July there was
the very historic decision by the G8 to
cancel 40 billion dollars worth of debt.
Unfortunately, Sierra Leone missed out on
the first round of debt relief. How, would
you convince the G8 and others that Sierra
Leone 's improvements in governance merit
debt relief in the coming years?
Vice-President Solomon Berewa: We have
put many mechanisms in place to promote
good governance, transparency and accountability
starting with public procurement of goods
and services. That has been the source of
the bulk of the corruption. We have now
put together a National Procurement Act
with rigid procedures on how to carry out
procurement for government. Through that
single act, we're hoping to be able to eliminate
a huge percentage of corruption. We have
an independent Auditor-General's Department
which audits all financial and other transactions
in parts of the government. It used to be
a department of the government but now it's
an autonomous and wholly independent department,
not subject to government control. That
will help massively in the accountability
process. Then of course we've introduced
other measures. We've a system called Public
Expenditure Tracking Survey where amounts
released by government to go to the provinces
for various projects and services are tracked
by University students and other people
who are traditionally fairly critical of
the government, to pursue those amounts
to see whether they really get to their
destinations and whether they are used for
the purpose they were intended. None of
these measures would ever have been considered
in the times before us but these are new
things and although some are already working
very effectively, some have teething problems
and some are still to really make an impact.
Then to address the corruption itself we
now have an Anti-corruption Act which excludes
nobody from its purview because we want
it to be really effective and transparent.
We even have Judges from the United Kingdom
who sit on those corruption cases. No local
Judge sits on them as ours is such a small
society that we have brought foreign Judges
to sit on them who don't know any of the
possible accused persons appearing before
them. We even have foreign Prosecutors who
work partly with the Anti-Corruption Commission
and together with the Attorney-General's
Office to decide which matters, after investigation,
deserve to be taken to court or the ones
that have no merit. All these are measures
that will help in the fight against corruption
in the country. All these things are there
and many more; all aimed at enhancing accountability,
transparency and governance.
Summit Communications:
The World Bank recently approved Sierra
Leone's Poverty Reduction Strategy Paper.
How does this fit into this general progress
towards better governance, more transparency
and economic growth?
Vice-President Solomon Berewa: The PRSP
is divided into several pillars dealing
with governance and transparency, of course,
agricultural development and security. This
shows the importance we give to those first
few topics. They take centre stage in the
PRSP by emphasising them we want to be able
to tackle these within the first three years
of the implementation of the PRSP.
Summit Communications:
Obviously our reports are going to be published
in the New York Times, which is considered
to be the most powerful print audience in
the United States. The United States has
been a very strong supporter of peace, stability
and development in Sierra Leone and outside
of Europe, is the largest bi-lateral trading
partner for Sierra Leone. My question to
you Vice President is, what do you feel
are the most important opportunities to
highlight for U.S. How can donor aids and
cooperate investment best be used for Sierra
Leone?
Vice-President Solomon Berewa: The last
area you mentioned corporate investment
is the most important. I want to be able
to get as many U.S investors to come and
invest in Sierra Leone. Now is the right
time. You can see many Chinese investors
are coming here. We would love the U.S Citizens
and corporate bodies to come as well.
Of course we want to be able to trade in
our own commodities with the US. We're beneficiaries
of AGOA Programme in the US. Because our
agriculture was damaged in the war it will
take us some time to benefit fully from
the AGOA programme. We would also want the
US to continue to be supportive of us in
financing and discussing in Sierra Leone
in International Financial Institutions
because if we're not able to meet the expectations
of our people, to provide for their needs
and fulfil the expectations they had after
the war, the peace dividend they were looking
forward to; if we're not assisted to be
able to provide that for them, we may have
a number of discontents again that may even
endanger our peace and security. We need
more assistance to revamp our economy and
to improve our social infrastructure. Of
course, the US has done quite a lot in that
area. They have built a lot of schools,
in Kabala and Kailahun and USAID has put
up a hospital in Kono and Kailahun. Of course
you know if you are asking for assistance
from your big brother, then you expect more
than if you were asking for assistance from
a pure stranger. So we expect the US to
really help us on the path to economic development
and social transformation.
Summit Communications:
There is something else that we want to
touch on within the interview. As you can
see from the previous reports we don't only
interview the institutions, the ministries
or the companies in a country. We are also
very interested in speaking to the leading
personalities. Vice President, you are mentioned
as the leading candidate for the Presidency
for the elections in 2007. Please share
with the readers of the New York Times which
of your achievements so far in your political
career, be it as a Vice President; be it
as Attorney-General, has given you the most
satisfaction?
Vice-President Solomon Berewa: Satisfaction
in terms of meaning accomplishment? Well,
I think the one single thing which I look
upon and feel quite satisfied about is,
the way I handled the Peace Process. It
was not an easy task and the fact that it
has stuck, the way it has given comfort
to every Sierra Leonean and the way it has
made Sierra Leone become normal gradually
again is the one thing that gives me most
satisfaction. Of course, as Attorney General,
I succeeded in re-establishing democratic
order back in Sierra Leone after the military
coups and so forth. You know, we came in
just after a Military Junta. So that means
we had to remove all the decrees of the
Military Junta from our laws and introduce
democratic governance. As Attorney General,
I was very much responsible for that and
again that is something that I feel satisfied
about. The way I went about it has helped
to sustain us as a democratic country and
we are just improving upon them now. Then
of course, as Vice President, I am very
satisfied working with the President very
closely; in trying to articulate his policies
and in helping to develop them. They are
policies, which I believe, need to be continued
with which is one of my motivations for
going into the presidential race. Most of
them are good policies but they could not
all materialise in the term of office of
the present President, President Kabbah.
His two terms have expired. He has to go
and he wants to go. If he goes and a strange
new person comes who might wish to dismantle
his legacy then we won't be going forward.
It would be a retrogression. So that is
one of the things I wish to be able to see
through.
Summit Communications:
I am approaching the end of my interview,
I would like to introduce my next question
with the words of another great statesman,
Nelson Mandela. He said and I quote "After
climbing a great hill, one only finds out
that there are many more hills to climb."
You've travelled a long way since you began
your political career and it may be you
have a much longer way to travel in the
future. What are your hopes and aspirations
for Sierra Leone in the coming years and
what is the political legacy you personally
would like to leave here in this country?
Vice-President Solomon Berewa: My hope
for Sierra Leone really is that Sierra Leone
continues to be a peaceful and secure country,
without sectarian divide; either tribal
or religious. I want it to remain as a united
country with every Sierra Leonean being
able to live anywhere in Sierra Leone without
any hindrance. I also wish to see Sierra
Leone developed and prosperous. We want
all our citizens to feel that they have
a stake in the nation and for them to all
share in the benefits that could flow from
development to be able to have a good standard
of education for their children; good medical
services and good transportation. Those
things which one accepts as normal in any
modern state mean that you won't allow somebody
to come and trouble your country and send
you running as asylum seeker somewhere else.
That is the type of country I would like
Sierra Leone to be. You go to bed; you sleep
fine. You wake up in the morning, have breakfast,
have lunch. You have dinner. When members
of your family are ill, there is a hospital
to go to. There is school for your children
that you are able to afford. That is the
sort of vision I have for this country.
I have no doubt that if we continue the
way we are going, we will be able to achieve
them before long. It is a small country
so it is very easy for these things to happen.
We are a very wealthy country in terms of
minerals and arable land. We have a young
population.
Summit Communications:
I would like to give you the opportunity
to send a last direct message of friendship
or of invitation to the readers of the New
York Times. Please go ahead.
Vice-President
Solomon Berewa: Well it has been a great
privilege and opportunity for me to talk
to any body who might read this interview
and of course, I hope the things that I'll
ask for will not fall on deaf ears. We need
assistance. Our country could easily become
a small Switzerland in West Africa; but
if we are abandoned now, we stand the risk
of losing even the small gains we have made.
It would be a real disaster for a country
that has made so many strides towards peace
to slide back into insecurity for want of
international support.
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