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Summit Communications:
To begin with Dr. Kaul, please share a little
about the history and aims of the Commonwealth
Business Council with the readers of The
New York Times.
Dr. Mohan Kaul: The Commonwealth Business
Council was created in 1997 when Tony Blair
became the Prime Minister of the United
Kingdom. The Commonwealth heads of state
met in October of that year in Edinburgh
with the theme of "Sharing Economic
Prosperity." Tony Blair asked us if
there was a business case for the Commonwealth.
A number of commonwealth countries had taken
important steps towards developing market
economies so this was auspicious timing.
The Commonwealth constitutes about US$2.5
trillion of trade globally, $100bln in FDI
outflows and 17,000 listed companies. English
is the main language and there are similar
accounting and legal practices. As a result,
the costs of doing business from one country
to another are reduced by up to 20%.
Our role is to increase the role of the
private sector in Commonwealth countries
and increase global trade and investment
between Commonwealth countries; to promote
global trade and responsible global investment
through good governance and social responsibility
and make globalization work for all. We
have seen tremendous change in the last
few years in those countries that have opened
up their economies and started participating
more fully in global trade.
Summit Communications:
The Commonwealth is the world's second largest
trading bloc after the EU. However, recently
the Europe has very much been the focus
of the UK government. Do you feel the Commonwealth
is being given the priority it deserves?
Dr. Mohan Kaul: Things come in waves. Recently,
Europe has been the focus for Britain. It
represents a big market for the UK particularly
with ten new countries joining an enlarged
Europe means increased business and trade
opportunities. In the same way, Britain
is looking towards the Commonwealth to enlarge
its business and trade network and if we
look at the big countries in the Commonwealth
then India is a large country. In the next
ten years, Britain will focus on Europe,
China the US and Commonwealth countries.
In India, even if 300 million of the 1 billion
population has the same income as an OECD
in ten years time then, along with Australia,
Canada, South Africa and many countries
in Africa, the Commonwealth will become
the world's largest trading bloc. It has
tremendous potential.
Summit Communications:
From the 29th till 30th March, the Sierra
Leone Investment Forum will be held in Freetown.
How does the Sierra Leone Investment Forum
reflect the vision and values of the Commonwealth
Business Council?
Dr. Mohan Kaul: Sierra Leone is a model
for us. I was involved in the post-conflict
training of public administration, public
enterprise, chief executives and the private
sector in order to build capacity. Increasingly,
we are seeing in post-conflict countries
that have managed to make a successful transition
from war, maintain stability and follow
the path of an open, market economy presided
over by a responsible government with a
responsible private sector that it pays.
Tanzania had a growth rate of 2% in 1998
and now it is 7.2%. Likewise, Sierra Leone
has shown an impressive growth rate in the
last few years. It has all the ingredients
to be a successful economy so now is the
right time to market it to the outside world.
It would have been premature to have organized
something like the Sierra Leone Investment
Forum earlier but we felt now was the right
time to promote Sierra Leone in the global
investment community.
Summit Communications:
Particularly because one of the main barriers
to investment in Sierra Leone is the popular
misconception that the country is still
unstable. As head of the Commonwealth Business
Council, what do you feel is the best way
of dispelling these misconceptions?
Dr. Mohan Kaul: With the investment community,
we have to tell the same story again and
again. Representatives of the Sierra Leonean
government came here to talk to businesses
and talk about their commitment to developing
an increasingly friendly investment environment.
We need to demonstrate that the government
is making the right decisions, increasing
regulations without increasing the cost
of doing business and generally creating
the right environment for the private sector
to flourish. It is testimony to the environment
that they are creating that foreign investors
have returned to the country in significant
numbers.
Summit Communications:
As you have pointed out, the government
of Sierra Leone has worked hard to create
a more investor-friendly environment in
the last few years with measures such as
the Investment Promotion Act of 2004, and
the establishment of a one-stop-shop at
the Sierra Leone Export Development and
Investment Corporation. Dr. Kaul, are there
any particular measures or incentives that
you feel it is important to highlight to
the international investment community?
Dr. Mohan Kaul: One is the willingness
of the government to listen and to act.
The leading figures in the government recognize
the importance of investment and are accessible
to the concerns of private business. They're
reducing the cost of the business and introducing
transparent regulations and corporate taxation.
The last thing to highlight is the whole
question of honest and clean government
and the question of corruption. Investors
are raising concerns over governance again
and again but there are encouraging signs
that there is a framework being put into
place to ensure a more effective use of
public funds. Addressing these concerns
is essential if the country is to attract
more investors.
Along with the government and the University,
we have started an institute of directors
with the aim of training executive directors
in the public and private sectors and familiarise
them with the Investment Promotion Act and
the Government Budgeting and Accounting
Act and make sure that they are aware of
their responsibilities. If these measures
are implemented effectively by people who
are there because of their professional
competence then overall governance will
improve.
Summit Communications:
You yourself have led the Commonwealth Business
Council since its inception in 1997. Where
would you like to take this organization
both within Sierra Leone and further afield
in the coming years?
Dr. Mohan Kaul: The main aim is economic
empowerment of all people. We want to increase
the number of people benefiting from globalization.
We want 3 billion people outside of the
global trade network to become part of this
process. We have to reduce poverty and this
can only be done if we have economic empowerment
of people and this will only come with the
private sector growth, entrepreneurship
and market access. People will then generate
more wealth. An open investment code is
an important part of this process. Countries
such as Tanzania, Ghana, Mozambique and
Uganda have all benefited in the past five
years from reforming these codes. All the
countries are now on their way up.
Recently, at the G8 summit in Gleneagles,
we organized a Business Action for Africa
Forum where 500 business leaders discussed
doing business in Africa and how to create
a better investment climate. We decided
that we would double the number of small
businesses in Africa and work with those
countries with a growth rate of 5% or more
because once we create a sizeable middle
class in Africa then it will pull the rest
of the continent up. We hope to achieve
that in the coming years.
Summit Communications:
It's a very interesting position you occupy
in the Commonwealth Business Council because
you are providing a bridge between the public
and the private sector. Using the private
sector as a motor to fulfil public sector
policy if you will. You are a man who has
worked extensively in the public and private
sectors. We are keen to understand how this
ties in with your personal philosophy.
Dr. Mohan Kaul: When I was young the social
model was seen as the way forward. I was
part of the 1968 student revolution in the
Sorbonne led by several Nobel prize winners.
With my experience in making the public
sector more efficient I realized that unless
you have sufficient incentives, unless you
have the incentive to achieve and people
have that passion, then you cannot create
the necessary mechanism for creating wealth.
If we run more efficient, smaller governments
that provide the platform and the incentives
for the private sector to thrive then I
believe that wealth will be created and
social justice will be achieved. The idealistic
part of the equation is that every actor
has to play his role responsibly. If this
happens then society in general will prosper.
We have to unleash global entrepreneurship.
It has worked in China, it has worked in
India, it has worked in a number of countries
in South East Asia and it has worked in
Africa. For instance, six years ago, when
I started working in Tanzania, there was
hardly any business. Today, it is a different
place. There are local entrepreneurs and
farmers exporting their produce to Europe
and last year when I went to Mozambique
for a conference there were half a dozen
Tanzanians there looking for opportunities
to invest in agriculture in Mozambique.
I am convinced that if you create the right
environment then things can happen. Once
people are economically empowered then they
can make their leaders accountable for their
actions.
I am hopeful that the Sierra Leone Investment
Forum will be the first step on this road.
I know the Sierra Leoneans are naturally
entrepreneurial and the country is incredibly
rich in resources in so many different sectors.
The present government has a President who
is a local man with an international understanding
and is creating the right governance framework
for the leaders of tomorrow.
Summit Communications:
I've reached the end of the interview but
I'd like to give you the opportunity to
send a final, direct message of friendship
to the readers of the New York Times.
Dr. Mohan Kaul:
Those readers who have interest in developing
markets should look at those markets with
open eyes. That's to say that not everything
is bad or good. There is a mix of both everywhere
and if we look only at the bad things then
it doesn't generate confidence. These countries
need encouragement to grow and do better.
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